1. That it will kill better. (being a "head shot" and all)

2. It takes less mines to kill an enemy.

3. Harder for the enemy to see - thereby they run into.

I've noticed this happening when i am on BD - and it seems i have more mines left over when the enemy rusher runs in...

(seems very effective on the Obi/AGT - six mines stopped three rushers - which ran in every 2 seconds or so...)

this is something i think is happening -- but of course it could be the heat of battle muddling my thinking....

any thoughts?

At risk of sounding like a total n00b, does anyone know what the limit typically is for proxys, and does it change? (like a server setting, say)

Victor

if you lay a 31st one - the first one you laid will go *poof*

(wish they would make a counter for Hotwire/Tech to show how many are out)

So - if your planting them -- yell out that your planting them --hopefully the team will know what that means....

And please dont use them for personal defense if your base is being attack and your at the other base... nothing sadder to see then that FT/Mamie walk in and your mines *poofing* b4 they hit them....

*Poof*

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: StoneRook ]

Am I wrong, or does it make sense to use the limited number of mines you're allotted to secure "choke points" where they will be most effective? For example: I'm on Walls last night. I planted little groups of mines (2-3) across the entrance and in the tunnel. This left us with @ 5-7 C4 free to use when attacking the opponent's base. Some fool starts running around mining doorways of every building. Let's see - 4 buildings, two doors apiece, 4 mines to a door...oops. We're out of c4 with none to use at enemy base.

Am I wrong? Doesn't it make sense to use them where they'll make the most damage and can be easily seen exploding (to warn team memebrs) & replaced (Purchase panels close by) rather than having to run around to check every building to see if it needs new mines? And dont get me started about the fools who just chuck mines all over the ground wherever they run. yar!

Went to a tunnel entrance to check how things were, only to dicsover that a tech was busy clearing my mines and laying his own !@#$\% We faced off with pistols, and damaged each other enough to withdraw, but I'm glad I caught him in the act or I'd have stumbled through his field thinking it was mine

Maybe it's obvious, but never forget to target mines with your mouse to check whose they are, before walking near them hehe.

To the fellow laying 2-3 mines in groups at wide entrance to wall map, I'm not convinced that mines are worth laying there as it is super wide and don't do much damage to vehicles, or are you just trying to stop foot soldiers?

if you sit in the entrance on that map with a tank or two to fend off other tanks - you can probably hold them (with engie support and all)

mining the tunnel below is a safe bet....

I've also mixed this up with some trickery. I'll place an obvious mine off to one side of an entrance outside. Most times they'll go to the opposite side and enter (I make an obvious gap [noob style ]). Again, the head shot mine tags em before they know what happend.

On one game our team was laying fields of remote mines and when a flame tank or two showed up,we all detonated them as they crossed them. It was effective at keeping them at bay while we kept racking in points. If You were in that game, You'd know (nod was using general chat and showed us every ft rush they planned)

We had like two large fields we kept replanting and one that was smaller just to get them into the larger two

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Originally posted by kiwi98989:
A mine counter would be a god send! i hate playing with people and i tell them"i'm planting mines, no one else place them or we will go over limit" yet on maps like walls, they place all the c4 at the base entrance or in the tunnels. its too easy for the mines to be deactivated in the tunnels and most stealth beacon soldiers or even techs can just hug the wall and slip right past the mines and head right to the unmined buildings.

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actually RDL and myself did exactly what you just said. He babysat the bottem as a hotwire, me th etop. both of us managed to get a bodygaurd each.
Only one person managed to doa stealth nuke.
And thanks to the bodygaurd who took out the troop, i managed to defuse the beacon.
I crapped myself because it had played the sound of the sirens and rushing of air of the bomb-it had just hit the deathly silence before the bang, but that was the only beacon they managed to place in the entire game. and because i had a massive amount of cash, i bought about 4 mammoth tanks for my teammates. poor nod didn't stand a chance.

As a tech or hotty your best defense in a close up fight is to pop your remote c4 before you get shot or drop some proxies in a crowded room. I've stopped multiple engy rushes with the c4 a hotty-tech carrys

So, if you're mining an area and feel that you have sufficiently covered the base and want to take over duties for mining the base, then advise your teammates. I would also STRONGLY suggest that you let your team know about the 30 mine limit. I didn't find out until last week and I've been playing for 3 weeks now. An average player wouldn't expect to see mines disappear from the game like they have done here. So if others are planting mines that you feel are useless, just let them know that you are taking care of business.

Of course, you'll run into the oddball who just won't care and will ignore messages or just wants to play Rambo style but for the most part, you'll be creating more team oriented players by giving them advice.

If you ever spot me in a game (CedricSneer), don't be surprised to see messages from just about everything I'm about to do. I like my team to know where I'm going or what I'm doing. I also like to notify my team where mines are disappearing and where enemy mines are being placed. And most of all, I like to notify my team of incoming attacks from a certain side. If only I could come up with more efficient ways of doing this instead of typing it all out...

and i dont play to babysit those types.

About two weeks in the retail release - i would say "Laying mines" - "about 15 mines out" - and some "IDIOT" sends "BFD -"
and i watched all the mines i lay go *POOF*

well - that so angered me - i just stop
doing BD on that map - and in rolled GDI - we lost the game. (All the wanna-be tank hero's were "Defend the Base" or "Repair that..." - i just replied -- "Guess you needed the mines, uh?"

got really quiet after that....

Hope to see you and the other team players in the game -- games played that way are the best!