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Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975468] Mon, 08 April 2002 07:11 Go to next message
Anonymous
So,
I have a 7-10 split in my brain right now about a certain subject: The act of loading a few (read: 2 to 3) remote c4 on a buggy/humvee that you are planning on rushing with into the enemy base:
Pro's: Well, there really is only one. When you sneak into base, you really don't want to let people know you are there by chasing down infantry firing your gun. This, for obvious reasons, blows any sort of surprise you might achive with a sneak attack. If you don't want to leave a full health vehicle for the enemy you have to drive around until you get blown up....at which point, you have very little chance to sneak into the refinery and blow that mutha. Placing two remote c4 on your vehicle allows you, when you blow up your remote c4 in the building, to remove your offending vehicle from the game, and often times, right out from under enemy hands. It's very satisfiying to hear the humvee's engines start up outside of your victim building (why people drive that vehicle away instead of checking the building for the enemy who LEFT IT THERE is still beyond me) and seconds later hearing the satisfying explosion of the powerplant AND the now enemy Humvee in blowing up in chorus together.

Cons': Well, you're wasting two of your teams 30 limit for mines, as remotes count agains the limit. However, you're not handing over a vehicle to the enemy either.
I, myself, favor this tactic.
Would anyone here be upset if they saw someone on their team do this? And I don't mean loading it up with c4...that's just dumb in my opinion. Just two to prevent it falling into enemy hands.....
Ok, chime in.

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975467] Mon, 08 April 2002 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
There are no pros to that. If you're going to try and take out anything you're going to need all the C4 you can get to take out a building. If you use the 2 timed, the building won't blow. It's that simple.
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975466] Mon, 08 April 2002 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
thats why u put 2 c4 on.. reload then go stupid newbie
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975465] Mon, 08 April 2002 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Yeah GeigerBC, I didn't think I'd actually have to mention that...I thought it'd be pretty obvious. You place your two remote c4, then REFILL at the terminal, THEN you go on your run...
Now that that's clear, how do you feel about the tactic.....
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975464] Mon, 08 April 2002 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
thats a really cool tactic, i'l have to try it, thanks for the tactic Particle!
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975463] Mon, 08 April 2002 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Thanks! I use this all the time now, as I HATE seeing that humvee I just left come barreling back into base with the lill' old red box round it....
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975462] Mon, 08 April 2002 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Why dont you take a rider --
(NOTE - let the pax jump first -- if the driver jumps - the pax cant do anything for a period of time - anyone else notice this?)

They run in - plant - while your covering -
then they run out -
you hop out and they hop in to cover you.

you run in and the building goes boom.

Pros
You Kill defenders trying to get in building.
You Dont give up a ride.
You have a ride to the next building or back to base.

Cons
you might lose the ride -- but your still alive to run in. *hmm - seems like a pro*


thats about all i see....

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975461] Mon, 08 April 2002 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I usually C4 my vehicles, there's really nothing to lose by doing so. But it is better to have a driver, if you can find a good teammate that you can trust. It is nice to ahve a driver because then you can get out, c4, and then he gets out and c4 and u take over in the vehicle. It's a much better way to cover than both people going in and guarding from inside. You just have to listen for the sound of the engy repair gun
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975460] Mon, 08 April 2002 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
This is, of course, the prefered method....however I can rarely find peeps willing to share my ride, or go on a rush with me. I agree that it is always 100\% preferable to have someone WITH you in the car. In those cases where you can't find a rider, I recommend this strategy....
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975459] Mon, 08 April 2002 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
FWIW I think booby-trapping vehicles is a waste of time and could jeopardise base defense. Unless you *know* there is " C4 budget" available.

How many times do you actually make it to your destination without the vehicle being destroyed? Likewise how often do you get in un-noticed by the ops? Chances are you'd be too preoccupied with placing your beacon/charges to know when anyone was near or in your ride.

The idea of having a passenger is better: not only is your ride safe from capture, you have someone watching your tail, and if you're quick/lucky, you could swap and double the C4 on the MCT. Thinking about it, if, say, your hummer is blocking the building doors and the ops can't kill it quick enough (i.e. occupied by a passenger) they might opt to go around the other side, in which time your charges should have gone off

Just another side of the $0.02 coin!

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975458] Mon, 08 April 2002 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
To clarify, in the interest of...well, clarification:
1. Yes, I agree, it is always better to have someone with you in the car. I myself find this surprisingly and annoyingly difficult to find. People should be jumping at the chance for a ride, but...well...they're not.
2. I very very often find I make it into base without any damage, and, also, without anyone from the enemy base immedeatly noticing me. If I didn't, I probably would never have had a reason to think of this strategy. And, as I wrote, when they do notice me, 9 times out of 10 they DRIVE AWAY IN THE D@MN VEHICLE instead of coming in to investigate.
So, here is my clarified question (it's always good to narrow it down)
IF, and this is a big if....IF you can not find someone to ride with you, IF you make it into base unnoticed and with full vehicle health, IF you are able to park, enter the building and set c4 while SOMEONE DRIVES AWAY WITH YOUR VECHILE....IS it better to risk losing 2 C4's from your base by using two extra remotes to destroy your ride, OR better to leave a full health humvee/buggy for the enemy and save the two C4, OR better to just never run out on your own in a buggy for this sort of adventure period.
I will never be able to deal with that last bit...I consider myself a real team player, BUT, I've been so succesful (and had a very good time) with solo hotwire runs.
So, now we're narrowing it down.
Any more thoughts? (boy, can't tell I'm biased toward this tactic can ya? )
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975457] Mon, 08 April 2002 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
oh particle dude, you're too d@mn politically correct. it's a game! i know you know what you're doing, so just do it! you don't need the consences of us forum "lurkers" to give you permission! lol..

the "don't waste mines" posts are for newer players that really don't understand what mines are to be used for. you on the other hand, understand full well the usage of mines and know there role is as much offensive as defensive. that brings up another point about base D fellas. just because you planted mines in all the key areas around the base, doesn't mean you can just hop in a tank and go joy riding up at the front. those mines have to be tended constantly. get yourself a buggy/humvee and ride herd on em!! also don't use all 30 in base defense. leave some for the guys trying to blow the enemy's buildings.

that's all i have to say about that...

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975456] Mon, 08 April 2002 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
**** Zuk,
You're never gonna let me live that "lurker" line down are ya . (I have a great image of you riding around the base on horse driving a herd of Proxy C4 in front of you! Move along little Proxies. HeeeYAAA!! Git, git git.)
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975455] Mon, 08 April 2002 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
HeeeYaaa!? particle dude, you're gonna have to watch more westerns on tv. it's YEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAWWWWWW!! but i like the rest of it. yah, you just have to think of em as a herd of cattle and corall em in the right pens!

and no, i'm not forgetting the "lurker" thing. but it's actually kinda fun using that word in a sentence. lol...

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975454] Mon, 08 April 2002 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
quote:
Originally posted by Particle Noun:
So,
I have a 7-10 split in my brain right now about a certain subject: The act of loading a few (read: 2 to 3) remote c4 on a buggy/humvee that you are planning on rushing with into the enemy base:
Pro's: Well, there really is only one. When you sneak into base, you really don't want to let people know you are there by chasing down infantry firing your gun. This, for obvious reasons, blows any sort of surprise you might achive with a sneak attack. If you don't want to leave a full health vehicle for the enemy you have to drive around until you get blown up....at which point, you have very little chance to sneak into the refinery and blow that mutha. Placing two remote c4 on your vehicle allows you, when you blow up your remote c4 in the building, to remove your offending vehicle from the game, and often times, right out from under enemy hands. It's very satisfiying to hear the humvee's engines start up outside of your victim building (why people drive that vehicle away instead of checking the building for the enemy who LEFT IT THERE is still beyond me) and seconds later hearing the satisfying explosion of the powerplant AND the now enemy Humvee in blowing up in chorus together.

Cons': Well, you're wasting two of your teams 30 limit for mines, as remotes count agains the limit. However, you're not handing over a vehicle to the enemy either.
I, myself, favor this tactic.
Would anyone here be upset if they saw someone on their team do this? And I don't mean loading it up with c4...that's just dumb in my opinion. Just two to prevent it falling into enemy hands.....
Ok, chime in.


I have used this tactic many times It is a nice way to take out people who think they are safe hiding behind a rock or low wall where they are hard to hit with your gun oand are unsquishable <~ new word? Been able to rack up a few kills with the proxy. The problem with using it for base rushes is that 9 out of 10 times the first newbie you run over takes out the c4 and you would have gotten the squish kill anyway

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975453] Mon, 08 April 2002 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Ahem.....
Zuk, Zuk, Zuk. Everyone knows about YEEEEEHAAAAAW! How passe. I was refering to the under used HeeYAAW (accent on the yaaw, with the whole word not particlarly drawn out, at least no where near as drawn out as Yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaw)!! HeeYaaw is used when you are trying to incite the herd, as it were, into mosying. Yeeehaaw is the expression of joy and exuberance used when a "cowboy" is pleased, or "all riled-up", so to speak. HeeYaaw, on the other hand, was much more utilitarian, and didn't always need to be exuberant, or emotionally driven. Ahem. So, as such, I thought that, driving proxy mines around the base not being a particularly exuberant task, I would plant the words "HeeeYaw" into your mouth. I would assume, you being a good cowboy, that you would want to reserve YEEEEEEEEHAW for the more uplifting moments, like, say, when your team wins, or a particlarly good bowel movement, or something along those lines. Glad that's cleared up.
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975452] Mon, 08 April 2002 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Sometimes when our team is winning by a large margin, and I feel like goofing off I will put some remote C4 on the back of a humvee, drive it close to the nod base, and then abandon it. Then I hide someplace and wait for some nod guy to take the hummer and drive across the tiberium field...imagine his surprise when it explodes in the middle of the field and he has to try to run out before he dies...sometimes they make it out but a pistol shot finishes them off
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975451] Mon, 08 April 2002 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Hey Particle Noun I think this is really a clever idea. I never thought about it. But I will use it

On map without AGT/Obelisk this idea increase the value of a good humvee/hotwire rush.

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975450] Mon, 08 April 2002 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
forgive me particle dude. i just thought you were a typical backwards yankee that just didn't know cowboy talk. why do i picture you looking like billy crystal, wearing a mets cap, and talking baseball while you're tryin' to ride herd on those poor li'l dogees? lol..
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975449] Mon, 08 April 2002 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
hey though wasting your limit of the miens is really a waste whats the big deal of letting the enemy having one of your hum vee
.just inform you team mates.

cons
if the opposition is good and have good teamwork theyll keep your tank and stuck your limit

Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975448] Mon, 08 April 2002 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Sounds good PN, You say 90\% they take vehicle instead of invesigating, that sound like a plus if your able to take out the building. One less enemy to prevent you from killing building? Plus it is funny also as when the building blows or there abouts, your vehicle with now dead driver! ha Just wait for timers to go off. Beautiful!
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975447] Mon, 08 April 2002 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Sorry for another post, but what is a unfortunate reality is the odd time some, A hole, team mate, will steal your vehicle while you refill with more C4.
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975446] Mon, 08 April 2002 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
I agree... nobody is going to leave your vehicle alone while your in a structure re-loading your c-4. Nobody is that kind ... :/
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975445] Mon, 08 April 2002 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
The funny thing about stolen vehicles is this:
Many times when I steal a enemy vehicle as a hotwire, while I'm at a enemy base, I bring it back to base, I try to give it to someone so I can say repair a building, and no one takes it. Sometimes you can't even give them away and others you can't keep it from a theif.
Pros/Cons of booby-trapping your rush vehicle [message #-975444] Tue, 09 April 2002 03:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Anonymous
Rojan et al.
Yeah, vehicle theives suck. I've found that pulling in round the back of your power plant or tib refiner is a good place for GDI to place your 2 C4 then refil. With Nod, if you drive up to the door in the airstrip, you can run in and refill pretty d@mn quickly.
But....
Nothing will deter a good car jacker.
And BLAZER...That is so funny!! I am definetly trying that next game. Just leave the buggy or humvee right out front of their base...like a trojan horse. Great idea. I guess it's better to leave it a little farther out from base so they don't disarm the c4.
(Oh, that reminds me...always space your two c4 out, don't clump them both on the hood or rear bumper...they are very obvious this way. If you put one on the back bottom right and left, they are hard to notice....unoticed booby traps are a lot more fun

Zukkov...you know, of course, that I would never actually presume to tell a texan correct cowboy lingo
Thanks for the replies everyone.

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