Ingredients:
Technician
Stealth Tank
Basic Driving and Shooting skills.

At the beggining of the game get Technician as soon as you can, and start mining obelisk and entrances to the base. Remember about 30 mine limit. Once you hit $900, immediately go for Stealth Tank. Set your weapon to repair gun.

Next stage: use advantages of your invisibility to ambush infantry and light-armored vehicles. I don't recommend getting too far away from the base, unless you really need to.

Usually there is heaven of targets. All you need to do is wait for the right moment, then release few missile salvos and *boink*.

What's different about this tactic is the fact that you can raid large groups of tanks and do drive bys with little penalties to yourself. This tactic involves a lot of running and dodging in vehicle, so be prepared. ZigZag from side to side when running, and start running as soon as you received your first hit, not shooting. Wait until stealth kicks in, pull behind rock or some other >>You are sure it is<< safe place, jump out and repair. It takes maximum 4 seconds to repair and jump back in tank, which is not enough for anything to lock on you. Keep strafing around the tank just in case there is some havoc or sakura shooting through it. Once repaired, get back to ambushing, doing hit and run.

About effectiveness--newbie like me on map CnC Under gets about 10 kills in 5 or so minutes along with countless saved teammates and 'support fire' points.

-Nox.

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Originally posted by Nox McChaos:
This is experimental tactic I usually use for even getting to top #1-3 in 12-24 player games. Note, that I just tried it in demo, and I am quite new, but I think it is very effective.

Ingredients:
Technician
Stealth Tank
Basic Driving and Shooting skills.

At the beggining of the game get Technician as soon as you can, and start mining obelisk and entrances to the base. Remember about 30 mine limit. Once you hit $900, immediately go for Stealth Tank. Set your weapon to repair gun.

Next stage: use advantages of your invisibility to ambush infantry and light-armored vehicles. I don't recommend getting too far away from the base, unless you really need to.

Usually there is heaven of targets. All you need to do is wait for the right moment, then release few missile salvos and *boink*.

What's different about this tactic is the fact that you can raid large groups of tanks and do drive bys with little penalties to yourself. This tactic involves a lot of running and dodging in vehicle, so be prepared. ZigZag from side to side when running, and start running as soon as you received your first hit, not shooting. Wait until stealth kicks in, pull behind rock or some other >>You are sure it is<< safe place, jump out and repair. It takes maximum 4 seconds to repair and jump back in tank, which is not enough for anything to lock on you. Keep strafing around the tank just in case there is some havoc or sakura shooting through it. Once repaired, get back to ambushing, doing hit and run.

About effectiveness--newbie like me on map CnC Under gets about 10 kills in 5 or so minutes along with countless saved teammates and 'support fire' points.

-Nox.

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Worthless tactic.

If you're trying for points, the best you can do is attack Mammoths from behind, or hit base structures like on City.

Hitting units the entire game will not likely place you above sixth place, unless you're a Havoc\Sakura hitting aircraft in the beta.

Since you obviously aren't in the beta, then you don't need to worry about aircraft for the time being.

The most points in a game come from:

Attacking structures
Repairing structures
Firing at high-priced ($900 and above) vehicles and characters

Also it does place me high. I kill on average around 7-8 Heroes per game, and damage/kill immense amounts of Mammoth with little to no risk to myself.

And don't get me going on how much I manage to help team by killing all those pesky engies behind Mammothes.

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Originally posted by Nox McChaos:
Well ACK, some people also play for what's called fun.

Also it does place me high. I kill on average around 7-8 Heroes per game, and damage/kill immense amounts of Mammoth with little to no risk to myself.

And don't get me going on how much I manage to help team by killing all those pesky engies behind Mammothes.

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You must be playing against newbies. Play any person with some real experience in this game and that Mammoth Tank will turn its turret around and blow the hell out of you.

It isn't hard at all to kill a Stealth Tank. I waste them all the time in Mediums\Mammoths.

I only have a hard time using MRLS to destroy them, because they get behind you and it only takes about four-six shots to destroy your vehicle.

Most people don't realize this but you can hit people behind you while firing your missles forward. What happenes is the missles will circle around and still hit where the target circle is. Just make sure that your in a big area otherwise the missles will hit a wall. Also, it takes a while for the missles to get to the target so if the tank is moving ( usually arn't because they can't tell you're aiming at them) don't bother.

I must say that the jump in-and-out trick is a good tactic. Thanks for the info.

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Originally posted by Zephalephelah:
You may be missing the point. Nox McChaos says that he is evasive. He’s all about the hit n run. As soon as the Mammoth begins its attack, Nox is outta there. He’s not going toe-to-toe with anyone unless he’s somehow gotten the upperhand and knows they will die first.

I must say that the jump in-and-out trick is a good tactic. Thanks for the info.

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As I said, any EXPERIENCED tanker will take him out with ease. The tank shimmers when hit and Mammoths RARELY go alone. You will see all sorts of infantry firing at his tank and it WILL be destroyed unless he can retreat across the entire map.

Doesn't work well.

BTW this isn't a tactic I would use for myself. I'm just curious why you say it won't work, when obviously it is working for him. Maybe it just wouldn't work for you...??

It just seems to me that you are saying NO WAY THAT CAN'T WORK, but still he gets in top 5.

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Originally posted by powerhouse:
For infantry units, just circle around them, and then just roll over them from the back... you'll stay cloaked!

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You can hear a ST coming.

No tank can handle the firepower of a mammoth. But a guy hitting a mammoth from time to time is going to start messing up GDIs strategy. They can’t ignore him, but they can’t shoot him if they can’t find him. Again, I’m not interested in this strat. I’m a flame-tank captain. But I think this is a valid strat. I don’t think he ONLY plays n00bs. Eventually he’s got to run into a few Mammoth captains that know what they are doing. The only difference is that he’s not trying to attack them head on, he’s moving around and using the stealth.

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Originally posted by Zephalephelah:
I don’t think he’s trying to take them out toe-to-toe. I think the strategy is to attack weakened enemies or take pot shots to produce points. He attacks with a few shots until they notice and shoot back, then he runs and repairs. He’s not going toe-to-toe. He’s saying that because of the stealth ability he is able to get away, repair, and attack again.

No tank can handle the firepower of a mammoth. But a guy hitting a mammoth from time to time is going to start messing up GDIs strategy. They can’t ignore him, but they can’t shoot him if they can’t find him. Again, I’m not interested in this strat. I’m a flame-tank captain. But I think this is a valid strat. I don’t think he ONLY plays n00bs. Eventually he’s got to run into a few Mammoth captains that know what they are doing. The only difference is that he’s not trying to attack them head on, he’s moving around and using the stealth.

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They can easily find him. Once he decloaks, infantry will shoot at him and the tanks will follow. Once they do, he's dead.

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Originally posted by aircraftkiller2001:
They can easily find him. Once he decloaks, infantry will shoot at him and the tanks will follow. Once they do, he's dead.

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Again, he's saying that he is getting good scores. I find it doubtful that this is only against n00bs. People join and leave in this game. I'm pretty sure he's been up against someone that knows how to deal with stealth and his response to this is to run away so he can fight another day.

I'm a little unsure how you can not see this.He is saying that he gets good scores. If he is saying this, then he is dealing out the damage and they are not killing him as often as you would suggest. Also, he’s not repairing out in the open unless he’s behind a hill or far away so that he can get it repaired and get back in the tank. One second after he’s in the tank, he’s stealth and on the move. I’m a little surprised that this topic is so hard for you to understand.

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Originally posted by Zephalephelah:
Again, he's saying that he is getting good scores. I find it doubtful that this is only against n00bs. People join and leave in this game. I'm pretty sure he's been up against someone that knows how to deal with stealth and his response to this is to run away so he can fight another day.

I'm a little unsure how you can not see this.He is saying that he gets good scores. If he is saying this, then he is dealing out the damage and they are not killing him as often as you would suggest. Also, he’s not repairing out in the open unless he’s behind a hill or far away so that he can get it repaired and get back in the tank. One second after he’s in the tank, he’s stealth and on the move. I’m a little surprised that this topic is so hard for you to understand.

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I don't care what he says he is doing, he's a newbie playing against other newbies.

If he was experienced, he would be doing a different tactic, like hitting the enemy base. Hitting units with a lightly armoured stealth vehicle is not a bright idea unless they are heavily distracted. It's also not economical, because the second people see a Stealth Tank, they fire at it. People hate Stealth Tanks. They probably have the shortest life span of a tank in this game. Cloaking doesn't mean jack if his tank keeps getting shot up.

And don't forget, shooting Stealth Tanks gives you a helluva lot more points than shooting any other vehicle does, except for Mammoths. Those infantry shooting him are probably making three times as many points as he is.

They were camped outside our base on the map field killing our miners.

I purchased a stealth tank and floored it to the nearest bridge without them noticing me because they were pounding our miners.

I then floored it around the corner and charged the agt...

Since they didnt even notice me ( not many would at all) I managed to destroy the agt just before they came back...

I then went behind their war fac and stealthed and when the coast was clear i hopped out and c4ed it

Game Over

[ April 11, 2002: Message edited by: L33TgAt4u ]

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I'm a little unsure how you can not see this

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