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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963540] |
Sun, 23 February 2003 14:12 |
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My opinion is considering the big picture losing the barraks hurts worse.
The cheapest vehic is still more expensive than the cheapest char. Plus losing hotwire is definatly a bad thing. Another part of the equation is the map setup, base defenses / no base defenses.
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963539] |
Sun, 23 February 2003 14:56 |
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Losing the Barracks is much much worse. Infantry units are always more important with vehicles. Also infantry units give less points if they are hit or they die. Another thing, who do you think would win? 40 player server. GDI has lost their Weapons Factory and Nod still has all of their structures. 20 players on GDI have an assortment of units ranging from hotwires to gunners to Ion Cannon Sydney. Now who would win? 20 hotwires, gunners, and Ion Cannon Sydneys or 8 flame tanks, light tanks, and/or stealth tanks? I would bet on the infantry any day.
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963538] |
Sun, 23 February 2003 18:24 |
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But if there is a bse defense, the WF loos gives the other time a thing of secure, cos If you have 1 APC + 5 (normal) enineers you can easily destry a bulding, but 5 Hotw + no APC ?
Yeah I know, ther are several posybiltys to get into the bases but it is easyser to hold Inftaery (e.g. just ran over them with an buggy) than kill an APC.
But it really depends on the situation and the Map.
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963536] |
Sun, 23 February 2003 21:29 |
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quote: Originally posted by rjs87: Losing the Barracks is much much worse. Infantry units are always more important with vehicles. Also infantry units give less points if they are hit or they die. Another thing, who do you think would win? 40 player server. GDI has lost their Weapons Factory and Nod still has all of their structures. 20 players on GDI have an assortment of units ranging from hotwires to gunners to Ion Cannon Sydney. Now who would win? 20 hotwires, gunners, and Ion Cannon Sydneys or 8 flame tanks, light tanks, and/or stealth tanks? I would bet on the infantry any day.
public server YES clan server NO.
I would prefer to lose the WF.
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963535] |
Sun, 23 February 2003 22:27 |
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Definitly barracks is the worst to loose. Loosing the barracks means no more mines and whats worst is it then takes 2 engies to destroy a building. We all know how hard it is sometimes to find someone to tag along with you to engie rush. Speaking of lack of teamwork, I have seen many games Nod has lost because someone nuked the WF first. It seems like as soon as WF goes everyone gets a PIC or Mobius and starts defending. Any unorginized Nod rush of any kind will never make it against a base full of PIC/Mobius's. So unless you feel you got a well orginized team never ever nuke WF first. That's just my opionin though.
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963533] |
Tue, 25 February 2003 02:57 |
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quote: Originally posted by cheeta31: it depends on the map, if playing with base defenses it is bad to lose the wf, if playing without defenses it is bad to lose the barracks
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963532] |
Tue, 25 February 2003 08:37 |
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Id say the WF is worse to lose if the map has defences, it makes it almost impossible to run into a base and take out a few buildings
but a map without defences would suck to lose the Bar. lose that and lose your defensive mines
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #-963530] |
Thu, 27 February 2003 04:29 |
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Last night I played a game on Mesa. When I joined, the airstrip was down. I was Nod. We were about 3000 points behind (GDI 7500 Nod 4500). Everyone bought LCG, Technicians, and Raveshaws, and we kept pounding GDI's Harvester and every tank they sent to our base for points.
Later they managed to take out our refinery, still, everyone had at least 500 credits for another LCG. This was with about 8 minutes left. In the end, we (Nod) won by simply defending our base, with about 2000 credits more than GDI (GDI 16000 Nod 18000).
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #18077] |
Thu, 01 May 2003 15:39 |
dArKz3rO
Messages: 1 Registered: May 2003
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coolmant u arent too bright are u :rolleyes: ? almost everyone above has said that a rush of tanks would quickly be chewed up by pics or ravs, and i agree. Besides, who would rush with mammys and give the enemy all those points...? your best bet on a base defence map when u lose wf or air is to point whore on the other teams rushes and try for a win by points
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WF is of course far more worse [message #18514] |
Sun, 04 May 2003 03:34 |
jsival
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I have played Renegade more than a year and it's far more worse when you lose the WF. Especially in maps with base defences. TANKS will give you the power the team need and also the points. Infantry can be easily killed by the advanced tank driver. And tanks are far more difficult to destroy. In maps without base defences the Hand of NOD would be of course a great loss to NOD because of the technicians and the sthblack hands who will place beacons in the GDI base. But in games with base defences you will be doomed if the WF or AS is destroyed.
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #18724] |
Mon, 05 May 2003 09:45 |
HTDana
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On the whole, I'd rather lose the WF. There's just too much defensive and offensive variety coming out of the barracks, between PICs/Raveshaws and techs/Hotwires (never mind all our personal favorites notwithstanding).
HTDana
HazardTeam
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What's worse? losing barracks or wf? [message #20347] |
Tue, 13 May 2003 20:12 |
Afromn96
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i have won many times when losing WF i always snipe the engis that get out of their vehicles 2 repair them in field. Me and a friend once were bh's sniping and they had 2 mammys in the field engis got out 2 repair it 2 head shots and the game was won, they didnt expect 2 mammys commin 4 em, lol
AFRO_MAN96 [wol names:Afromn96, sicilian69]
"you mess with the fro you got to go"
-Eddie Griffin
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